I sat down with BJ Gremillion, founder of Property Rush, and this is one of those conversations where the practical details stack up fast. BJ walks through how he rebuilt his entire business model after realizing he was the one absorbing all the risk on every flip, why he now front loads major repairs like the roof, AC, electrical, and plumbing before a property ever reaches an investor, and what actually separates a trustworthy long distance operator from one that will cost you. If you invest out of state, work with a property manager, or have ever wondered whether you are the one carrying too much of the risk in your own deals, this conversation is worth your time.
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Hello, lovely listeners, and welcome back. I’m Adrienne Green, and today we’re here with BJ Gremillion, which I’m super excited about because he is my own property manager on a couple properties. And BJ is a living example of how real estate entrepreneurs break free of the grind and create the freedom they wanted at the start. So thank you, BJ, for joining me today.
Happy to be on. Thanks, Adrienne.
So for our listeners who do not know you yet, can you give a quick snapshot of who you are and what you’ve got going on right now as an investor and as an entrepreneur in the real estate space with Property Rush?
It started in Arizona. I started investing in real estate in Arizona in 2009. About fifteen years later, we experienced our first crash, in 2022. That was a big year for us because our business was centered around land acquisition and development at that time. If you know about that and interest rates, you understand where I’m going with that. So after that, about a year before 2022 happened, we started looking at other markets, one of which was Chattanooga. We saw an opportunity there. So we ended up leaving Arizona after about twelve years with my prior business partner.
We ended up going to Chattanooga, Tennessee, because we saw an opportunity in the real estate world. I’d done a lot of research and looked at a lot of different markets. We visited about four different markets, and when we landed in Chattanooga, it clicked. It wasn’t anything other than just a gut feel that we were in the right place. So we started investing and bought a few homes just to test the water.
Because that’s what we do. And it went well. We felt good enough about it. So there came a point where we had to decide. It was like the proverbial thing, one foot on the dock, one foot on the boat. You have to figure out which one you’re going to pick. So we decided to go with a canoe on that one and travel across the country to Chattanooga, Tennessee. I have a beautiful wife, five kids, and for us that was a big deal because we had never known anything but Arizona. All of our kids were born in the same hospital, my wife’s family is from there, a lot of our cousins on that side were from there. So it was a big deal for us. We ended up leaving and went to Knoxville first because we felt that would be the right call for schools. Turns out, funny enough, after a year
we were flipping a home in Chattanooga. My wife fell in love with it. We ended up choosing to live here because I was commuting back and forth, and really we had just lived in Knoxville for the kids’ school. So then we ended up coming to Chattanooga, and it’s funny because our kids will tell you now that they love the school they’re in now more than they did in Knoxville. So I wish we could have known that in the beginning and not
had that chapter of one year in Knoxville, because that would have saved us a move and all that. But everything happens for a reason. So we’re here. And to answer your question, sorry, this is a longer answer, but what we ended up doing was creating a business model that we felt would serve people well. It’s a simple turnkey property management company.
What that means is we focus on start to finish. We find properties we feel are in good areas, we purchase them with our own capital, we remodel them with our crews to our standards, which are very high standards, and then we turn around and sell to an investor who then has us manage that property for them. So the idea behind the business model is to help
wealthier individuals who have some discretionary income looking to invest in real estate, but they don’t want to be in real estate. They don’t want to have a job in real estate. They don’t want to figure it all out on their own. They’re smart, in my opinion, to not have to get into the weeds and figure that all out. Instead, they skip the line, go straight to us, and we’re able to provide them a great product, a great property with the management included, so they don’t have to worry about lifting a finger. So that, in a nutshell, is why we’re here.
I feel like we could dive into pieces of that one answer and it would take the entire episode. But I know there’s a lot more. For listeners who know my story, I moved to Chattanooga in 2020 before leaving at the beginning of 2020 for our travels. So obviously BJ and I saw the same thing, with the real estate market being such a great thing in Chattanooga. Now, on the personal side, BJ, I am curious.
What was so amazing about this house that you guys fell in love with and wanted to move from Knoxville to Chattanooga?
For us, community is a big deal. The subdivision we found is in Mountain Shadows. We were approached by a lady who wanted to sell it for a crazy price, and I said, are you sure? It was going to be a great flip and we were excited about that. But then my wife, she does the design on a lot of the homes. When she came out, it’s funny, she’s talked about this because we’re big believers.
We prayed about all of our decisions, and she didn’t really feel like she got an answer about moving from Arizona to Tennessee. It was more of, I trust you, and I don’t know if this is the right decision, but I’m going on faith based on you. So no pressure. That was a little scary. But then, on this move to Chattanooga, there was a point where she was walking through the home and she started
picturing every kid’s room, and she was like, they could be in this one, they could be in this one. And as she was doing that, she said, wait, we’re not going to live here though, that’s weird, why am I doing that? So it was after that she called me and said, why are we selling this again? You’re commuting back and forth an hour and a half every day, why don’t we just move there? And I said, it’s because I didn’t want to say anything and have you
be upset with me for even suggesting the idea, since you’d already moved across the country. So it had to come from her. And when she said yes, I thought, great, because I’d been thinking that the whole time, but I didn’t want to say anything because you’d already done a lot as far as moving out here. So that’s how it worked.
I love that. And what I love is, I have a community for women real estate investors, Heart Rock Collective, and we talk about women in real estate investing and one of the special gifts that women have is the sense of intuition. It’s funny, I remember hearing about some guy in real estate who said he will never do a deal unless his wife gives her
blessing, no questions asked. So I love that you guys used her connection and her intuition there as a major deciding factor.
She is the rock. The best business advice I have ever received is not from a coach or some guru. It’s always been from my wife. She really is our rock and foundation. And also, she is the designer, but it’s such a cool thing to have, because I believe everyone has gifts given to them. And usually we get a couple, right? It’s not like
we get the whole card deck. You get one or two that you’re probably good at or natural at.
for me, I’m not great at vision. I’m not great at looking at a home and understanding the potential and seeing where things can go. She has an innate sense, she can’t believe that I can’t see it. It’s great though, because I say, look, I don’t know what you’re talking about, but if you think it’s a good deal, I’m doing it, because you’re going to figure it out. And every time, without fail, she nails it and exceeds what I even thought. She makes fun of me because if I go to investors and do a walkthrough with them and start
telling them what we’re planning on doing, she says, whatever he told you, just stop, don’t even listen to anything, forget it. Because sure enough, she’ll go through and say, no, we’re actually doing this. She would have done that at night in bed, doing floor plans on her iPad, and I had no idea. So we’ve learned to stay in our lanes.
Well, and the other thing you’re hitting on that resonates with me is, we don’t all get the whole deck of cards. We all have our gifts, and the beauty of when we can partner with other people is when their gifts complement our gifts, whether that’s a spouse or a business partner, and then it’s easier for us to stay in our zone of genius because they’re each in their own areas.
Yeah, why do opposites attract? That’s exactly why, because I’m pretty deficient in a lot of these areas and they’re not. In a perfect world, you find a spouse that completes you, and then your kids get to enjoy it too. That’s why I’m such a big believer in marriage, it’s so cool. We were talking last night with our kids about this. I have sixteen as the oldest, down to six. We have six year old twins, and they’re my
favorite just because I love that age, and they’re twins, a boy and a girl, there’s nothing better. I was talking to them and they always go back and forth. They’ll say, Dad, you’re my favorite, or, where’s mom, she’s my favorite, and they go back and forth, and I say, guys, isn’t that so cool
that you feel that way about us. The cool thing is you get us both. Day to day it just depends on what they need. If they need nurture and love and consistency versus the wild, crazy, fun side, they get both, but in doses, not too much of one or the other. It’s a good balance.
Okay, we’re going to switch to another thing you mentioned in that first question, there are so many nuggets there. One of the things you mentioned is that with Property Rush, you keep people from getting another job in real estate. That reminds me of Robert Kiyosaki’s cash flow quadrant, where we go from employee to self-employed, which is where a lot of people go in the real estate world. They leave their W-2 and they’ve made themselves a job, flipping houses or something like that. Then they can
progress to business owner and potentially to the investor spot where the money is doing the work for them.
If I were to generalize, nine out of ten people go from employee to self-employed and just make themselves another job. I did that. And yet for people with a high income earning W-2, it makes a lot more sense to jump to the investor route directly.
I’ll tell you, it’s funny how timing works. This podcast, if you want to talk about how hard it is to be a business owner or run your own business, I could go on for a very long time, because there are times and seasons where you get kicked in the mouth over and over and you think
holy cow, I thought we were good at this. We’ve done thousands of remodels up to this point now. You’d think it would get to a point where it’s clockwork and it all works perfectly and it’s just a system. But then you realize you’re working with people
and you’re working with old homes that have problems you can’t foresee. So just when you think you’ve got it figured out, God has a funny way of humbling you quickly. I think we’re in that season of realizing there’s a lot of things we need to button up and do better on, and there always is. That will never go away, because we’re always striving for perfection. But I have realized that if
I could keep my job and still be in real estate, because I think everyone realizes they need to invest in the stock market and real estate. I saw something the other day that if you do not own assets, you will be left behind faster than ever before. Cash just doesn’t do it for you anymore, because, if you kept a hundred dollars in the bank in 2009 or 2010.
And that’s back when we used to think if we made a hundred thousand dollars we would be set, that was our dream. Now if you make a hundred thousand dollars, you’re borderline poor, and again it depends on lifestyle and where you live, but now we’re at a point where we need a much higher level of income just to get by and pay the basic bills. That really is because a hundred dollars back in 2009 is now worth about sixty cents
today, and that’s just from inflation, not doing anything, it ate away all that money. So you need to own assets, and I think the best hedge against inflation is real estate. That’s why we do what we do. But the reason people don’t do it is it’s like Everest. If you want to get into real estate, you’re starting at the bottom, and then you have to figure out, where do I buy, who do I trust, is this realtor telling me the truth, probably not.
Is it going to rent, I don’t know, and then who am I going to get to do the remodel, who am I going to get to manage it, am I going to manage it, and then with your budgets, throw that out the window, it’s going to go up thirty percent from what you initially thought, because everything’s expensive. So it’s like if people get to do the fast pass, skip that line,
and just say, yeah, I’ll take that home that is perfectly manicured, done, and leased out and managed. Why wouldn’t you? To me it’s a no brainer, but again there’s also people like myself who, if I was told that when I was twenty, would have said forget it, I could do that myself. So it just depends on what phase of life you’re in or how you think about it.
Right. And that’s one of the things I love about real estate investing, there is a seat and an option within it for everybody. If you’re that twenty year old who only has a few bucks to your name and you have to bootstrap it, then fine, put in that manual labor, do that flip or that burr yourself. And yet for other people whose time is worth more, there are other options, like these turnkeys you’re offering.
It’s so true. Yes, there does come a point where you realize you’d rather pay someone who’s really good at it, to do this without having to go through all that headache and hassle of figuring it out yourself. Totally agree.
I’ve done a few flips and burrs, value add renovations in our portfolio, and I swear, every one gives you a few gray hairs. It’s super stressful. That’s part of why we moved to the private lending seat on the bus, because I did not have any special gift or skill for value add. That was not my zone of genius. So it’s like, let’s move to a different aspect of real estate investing that works for us.
You guys have skipped the line. I’ve always said there’s a progression in real estate where it starts with the bootstrap, you do a flip or a burr, and do that a handful of times. Some people do it longer than others, but they stay in that lane for a long time, then they get burned out, and then they figure out, why don’t I be the bank? Because the bank never loses. They always make the money no matter what, and they get paid first while I get paid last.
Some of us learn that later than others. I’m glad you’re quick students of the game, you realized quickly, let’s just skip the line and go straight to the lending, because that’s where everyone wants to end up, being that person lending the money, saying, good luck, go have fun, and then if you default, great, I just got a property. So you’re smart to be in that position.
I’m glad we make it look easy, it’s been an adventure but it’s worked well for us. Now I do want to get into something. If we’re talking about trust, that’s one of the challenges with real estate investing. A lot of people do it long distance, which I love, I don’t think you need to invest in your own backyard. And yet it’s really important to trust your team when
you can’t just drive by the house or anything like that. So let’s dive into that a little. I know you work with a lot of long distance investors too. What would your wisdom be for them on how to vet operators, long distance?
Okay, so that’s my number one point with investors. These properties we’re selling, they’re replaceable. They’re more or less the same, give or take a few things depending on what you’re looking for. The properties themselves are replaceable. The operator, on the other hand, will make or break your experience. If you start with a property in mind first and then you’re figuring out
who the contractor is if you’re doing it yourself, and then figuring out who the property manager is, because you’re doing remote things, you’re doing it backwards. I did the same thing. Everything I talk about is learned experience, all done the hard way. I’ve never had the intuition to think, maybe I should do this so I don’t have to go through that. I have to go through every single brick wall myself. So yes, I’ve been an investor,
turnkey in Alabama and Michigan, and I have lots of horror stories that go with that. But really it came down to the operator, because I trusted too much. What I tell people, and this is a big deal for us, is I understand where out of state investors are coming from. It’s scary to invest in something you don’t know, you don’t know the area, the cities aren’t familiar, so you get scared about it.
There’s definitely an element of trust, and I always encourage people to do this, I’m okay with you flying out here and looking at the properties, touch, feel, make sure you like the areas and drive it. That’s important. But more important, you have to meet with the operator. I had a mentor of mine who does turnkey real estate in Kansas City, and I watched him
interview a property management company. This was when he first came out here with me and we were thinking about doing this together. I was thinking about being a partner with him, and he’d done it before, so he was showing me the ropes. He went to this management company and took basically an hour of their time. He sat them down and asked them
so many good questions that I thought, whoa, this is almost uncomfortable for me, it was like an FBI interrogation. But he did such a good job that by the end of it he said, that person knows what they’re talking about, this person is full of it. And he was right, he was dead on.
And honestly, by the end of it he said, I don’t think any of these make sense, I wouldn’t trust any of them with my money and my capital. That’s when we realized we needed to start our own property management company, because they just didn’t meet what we needed, our standards. We had high standards, and it’s important to have high standards.
That was a big lesson for me, because in the past I would think, he seems like a nice guy, we had a five minute conversation, I feel good, yeah, go ahead. And you’d think, why would you trust someone with a three hundred thousand dollar asset to do whatever they want with it? So there were a lot of lessons in there.
Right. And I remember hearing that your goal was originally to do the house renovation, and you started doing the property management because you knew your clients who were buying your finished houses, your turnkey properties, needed property management. You couldn’t find what you wanted locally, so you made it.
Yeah, anyone who’s been in real estate and dealt with property management companies, and you’ve obviously dealt with us too, so I know we have our challenges and weaknesses, and nobody knows those probably better than me. But you also have to be self aware as a business owner and know that’s a problem you probably need to look into. It just came down to having those high standards, and
for me, I tried it. I actually gave a couple management companies a few of my properties just to see how they would do, and I was amazed at how low the bar really is. They didn’t even do the basics, like answer a call every once in a while, or an email, just let me know if it’s going okay. If I have to fly out there to see what’s going on, that’s probably a bad thing. So it was a rough experience. And
the other thing that surprised me was, everywhere you go is a little bit different. You’ve been all over the world, so you see culture is a real thing. In the South, what I realized was it’s a copycat, everyone does it just because that’s how it is and that’s how everyone does it. I’d say, well, why do you do that, and they’d say, well, I don’t know, it’s just how it’s done.
So I’d say, why don’t you try this model, and they’d say, because it’s just not the way we do things. That doesn’t make sense. There was, for example, an eight percent or ten percent management fee, every single company across all of Chattanooga is eight or ten percent. Nobody does a flat fee? Really? That hasn’t dawned on anyone? So I thought, okay, well, it’s not unique, anyone could do it, but
for whatever reason they didn’t, and I know why, there’s a lot more money in the percentage model. But I hate the percentage model because it’s backwards. We prefer three thousand dollar rentals over thousand dollar rentals. Why does it pay me three hundred dollars over here or a hundred dollars for a hundred thousand dollar house, or a thousand dollar rental, that doesn’t make
sense, because it’s actually more work to do the lower income properties, so it’s inverted, and that’s always driven me crazy. So that was just an example of, I think we can do better. So we did it.
Yeah, and I agree a hundred percent. I have a family member who just bought in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, a student housing property, a duplex or triplex, and
this family member is upset when she visits because that management company is getting thousands of dollars a month, since it’s a student rental, they’re renting by the room, multiple doors. She says, what are they doing for that? And I don’t think they’re doing much. That’s something with the percentage based model, when you’re getting over a thousand dollars for one property with multiple doors, you have a pretty high bar your client is going to expect of you in terms of
the value you’re adding there.
Totally, a hundred percent. With us it’s like we treat everyone the same. It’s a hundred bucks or eighty five dollars for multifamily per door. That’s just how it is, transparent.
It makes it a whole lot easier to say yes to that from an investor standpoint. So now, one thing we talked about a little before the call, BJ, I’d love for you to share the recent pivot you had in the business.
Yeah, there are certain things that keep me up at night, and really what it comes down to as a business owner is anytime you have capital exposure
and uncertainty, that keeps you up. I’ve never really had anxiety until, I’d say, since 2022 happened. Now I struggle sometimes to sleep and stay asleep because my mind is always racing. When you take a minute to isolate what’s causing those issues, for me it came down to, right now the model was I was doing everything myself. I was finding
properties, putting my capital into it, using my guys to fix it up, and then everything was on our shoulders, hoping it would sell. It’s funny because we went three or four weeks without a contract with an investor buying one of our properties. I thought, I have seven properties right now I need to unload, nobody’s biting, what’s going on, you stress. And then, funny enough, the week later
this flood of interest came in, and now we’re two or three deep on each property with backup offers on everything, and they’re all sold out. Now I’ve got a different problem, I need to go find more properties and inventory because I stopped since I was nervous, and clearly that’s a bottleneck. So what we ended up doing was realizing, okay, we’re going to go to a model where
we work with the investor at the beginning, on the front end, and say, okay, what are your goals, where do you want to be, do you want multifamily, single family, Tennessee, Georgia, what do you want, and then say, okay, if I find that property, I’m going to present it to you, and if everything looks good with the budget we have in mind and the rental rate, we’re going to do this together. So they reserve the property on the front end, and then we went from
basically having an inventory of homes and hoping someone would buy it, kind of like the MLS flip model where you flip homes and try to find a buyer later down the road, to now having a built in buyer, an investor already committed, putting capital up front to buy that property.
So there’s a little bit of skin in the game, they’re a little more committed, but it’s fun for them to see beginning to end, they’re part of that journey. It reduces the number of days I need to sit on a property, because that eats up capital, since I’m paying people like you. So it definitely answered a lot of those questions for us. But I did feel I couldn’t just jump into that model right off the bat, because in my opinion, I wanted to prove myself,
that there is demand, that this is the right path, that there’s a viable business here. So we did a hundred properties basically with this first model, and they all sold out, they’re all doing great for the most part, it really has come true, what our vision was. Now it’s, okay, we need to step it up, reduce our risk, and hopefully get to a point where I’m not the one responsible for all this capital out there, and eventually get to a point where I’m the investor, like you, lending to people, and getting into that phase. So that’s the direction, this is step one towards that direction.
I love this from an investor standpoint, because I think of all the times you go into a house and think, I wish they had cheaped out on this or overspent on this, which isn’t important, and you wish you could go back in time with them and redo those choices. That’s what you’re effectively having investors do.
Yeah, it definitely is.
What I love from an investor standpoint of what you’re doing, BJ, is I can think of all the times I’ve gone into a house or a property and thought they either cut corners or overspent on certain areas, and it makes me sad when I might have to redo something that’s already brand new, because I’m originally from California, I don’t like waste, I’m very environmentally friendly, or when they overspent on something that isn’t going to increase rents, so it makes the numbers not work.
And you let people avoid all of that with your model.
Yeah, and you know, this is where the experience comes in. I used to be all about the Instagram look, the cool finishes, that was the exciting part. Now I could care less about the finishes, because I’ve realized you have to understand the market you’re in. Maybe that would matter in Arizona or California, but when you’re in Chattanooga, good enough is good enough. They will not pay you, they will not reward you for nicer finishes. They won’t. And
it’s because everyone’s on a budget, it’s just the reality of where we’re at. People are living on a budget. Knowing that, I know my renters, there’s a cap on what they’ll pay for rent, and I’m not optimistic about rent anymore, I’m pessimistic about rent prices. So we pretty much always hit them within about a hundred dollars every time. That’s only because I’ve learned. But the other thing I’ve learned is investors,
everyone always says, well, rental properties don’t cash flow anymore, long term rentals don’t work anymore, because that’s the new thing, real estate doesn’t work anymore, and that tells me this is a fantastic time to buy. Do the Warren Buffett thing, when everyone is fearful, be greedy, and when they’re greedy be fearful. So this is absolutely a fantastic time right now, we’re having a heyday, because now I can buy stuff for whatever price I tell, because who else are you going to go to? So it’s fun right now in that regard.
But getting back to the point of finishes, what I focus on, and the reason people say they don’t make money on rentals, is because they’ll say, well, I had to repair my AC unit and that was six thousand dollars, or I had to do a new roof and that was ten thousand dollars.
So I start with all the CapEx expenses, and I always say, start with all we care about in the beginning, MEPs, mechanical, electrical, plumbing. I look at the foundation, we do the sewer scopes, I know where all the traps are. I’m flushing out every one of those at the beginning. I want to do a pre-inspection, tell me all the bad stuff. If it’s knob and tube wiring, we’re doing all new electrical on the whole house. We’re doing all new plumbing, all new flex.
Pipe like this, these are all things I know will come back and bite you. Yes, you’ll make money in the first couple years, and then you’ll have to do all these repairs. So with us, our whole selling point is we’re going to do a new AC pretty much all the time, new AC, new roof, new electrical, new plumbing. And then you get to see
on the front end, a lot of times people will say, you’re making all this money, and it’s actually, no, on that one I lost money or I made a hundred dollars. There’s been times where there’s a spread of a hundred thousand dollars and you’d think you probably made a lot of money, but no, I spent it all on the big stuff, so now there’s no money left. That’s another reason I’m kind of tired of being the very last person to eat.
When you’re a flipper, just know that’s the reality, you get what’s left over. If you’re not protecting yourself on the front end, you obviously make money when you buy, and those are things you learn, you can’t make up for it after you’ve already purchased it. You’re pretty much set once the concrete starts to form. So those are all things where I think, let’s bring an investor in, he can see where all the money is going, and
then realize there’s some margin in there, obviously we have to stay in business, but it’s not fifty thousand dollars. And by the way, with this model, if we just had one recently that appraised for four hundred thousand and we sold it for three hundred sixty, I could look at it two ways. I could look at that as leaving money on the table, or
the way I look at it is, this investor just had forty thousand dollars of equity day one and didn’t have to do a thing. He got an investment property where he’s putting twenty five percent down, he’s already going to make a fifty percent return on that, plus all the rental income and tax benefits. It really is a cool model in that regard, because they get to enjoy equity and cash flow. So we’re willing to take on a lot of the brunt of
the chaos that goes with fixing up.
So there are two things I love about what you shared here. First, as somebody who’s replaced four HVACs this summer on rental properties, from a finance perspective, when you’re doing it after the fact, it just comes out of your income for that year, versus if you can do it during the renovation like you’re doing, then you’ve paid for it with your renovation loan and you just have the mortgage after.
That’s so much better from a managing your cash and expenses standpoint. I love that. And the second thing is, it’s great that somebody could have you help with all this, have everything, and sell it for three hundred sixty and get that equity, that’s really the goal of doing this. I love that, because people worry, there’s a scarcity mindset of, if I have somebody help me with this, then I’m not going to make any money. It’s great that you give an example where people can do this,
they can have your help and still make money. My favorite is where everybody in the party is winning, and that’s what you’re working to set up.
Yes. Everyone’s got to eat, everyone’s got to win. If you do that, you realize as a business owner, I don’t need to hit a home run, I need to hit a single or a double. And then they come back to you and say, you treated me fairly, we did good together, let’s do it again, and that’s where the magic happens. It’s the repeats, you don’t have to spend money on marketing to find other people.
So my goal is to get to a point where I have ten or twelve investors where we’re basically a private advisor kind of thing for those individuals, so they can enjoy being in the market without having to be in the market.
I love that, and I feel like it almost becomes a who-you-know thing, you’re only going to take on clients when they’re referred by another great client, and it’s very exclusive. I’d love for investors listening to think about what must be true or different about a business like that, versus one that’s having to spend tens of thousands of dollars to sponsor a conference multiple times a year. There’s going to be some pretty huge structural differences in those two businesses.
Totally, we don’t spend any money on marketing. That’s just because, from the beginning, I felt it should be referral based, word of mouth, and it’s worked out that way. There have been some sleepless nights wondering if I should have done a lot more marketing to find these investors, but fortunately it’s worked out.
Well, BJ, this has been a longer episode than normal because it’s been so fabulous. I’m really excited about everybody who’s going to listen and get some takeaways from this. If people would like to learn more about Property Rush or connect with you, what’s the best way for them to do so?
Our website is propertyrush.com, and it has everything you need on there. You can set up a thirty minute call with me if you’d like to discuss and see if we’re a good fit. And then Instagram, I’m on there as well as Facebook, and thankfully I have a weird last name, so there’s not many BJ Gremillions, I think I’m one of one, as far as I know, maybe there’s another one out there, but I’m pretty easy to find because of the last name.
I love that. I know for a large part of my upbringing I wished I had some normal name like Rachel or Heather, but now as an adult, similarly, I’m glad I have a name that’s not as common.
Totally, people remember it. And funny story, our property manager, believe it or not, is also BJ. I’ve never met another BJ out here, but it just so happened that the one I did find is our property manager.
That’s fun. Well, for our listeners, thank you for listening. Please reach out to BJ if you’re interested in this turnkey relationship and being one of his VIP clients. And thank you for listening to another episode. Join me again next week for another amazing conversation.
Thanks again.